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WELCOME TO MY HOPPING PAGE
This page will give you some insight in to what it was like for Londoners, the hard times the good times
when many families would uproot to Kent to ern money to keep em going through the winter.
life on the hopfields  was hard we might have been rough & ready but we were the salt of the Earth.Hoppers would look after each other and make sure you was alright. people who went hop picking had nothing but you would always have a hot meal and a drink inside ya
when you went hopping down in Kent.

 
Hi Jim
Thank you for your quick reply
please feel free to use any of the photo's above you think are appropriate for you webpage

The Bromwells went hop picking on a farm near Marden in Kent . All the family would get together on a Sunday for a family get together. They would have the whole season in Kent . The Bromwells lived in Mile End Old Town for many a long year. Street was Johns Place . They were Costermongers/hawkers/flower sellers. Loved their horses. A special one was old “Blackie” . He was a retired funeral horse that pulled the hearses.

My Grandmother was Clara Peters and later became a Bromwell. She was of gypsy stock but settled to live in Edmonton in her later years. As a child her best friend was Elgar Buckley. While the adults worked the children ran free and she and Elgar would find the field where the farmer’s horses were. She would wrap her skirts around her legs and along with Elgar they would pull themselves up on the horses and ride them bare back round the field until they got caught. Then when the farmer or one of the workers spotted them they would jump off and run like the wind to hide in the nearby wood till it was all clear. Scrumping for apples was a favourite pass time until the bull took off after them. Apples didn’t taste quite so sweet after that. My Dad often told me about that story he could afford to laugh as he was on the other side of the gate watching!! .

More if I can find my file on all the stories I have gathered from the family over the years.

Big reunion at my house in about three weeks as my son is getting married mid April and lots of family flying out here from England . Hopefully we will get time to do a bit of remembering.

Thank you Regards Ros

 

Grandad
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I love this photo, it was sent by Terry King 11/11/2008
 
Hello Jim,just found your site. We come from Lambeth Walk and went to Tibbles (or Tipples) farm,Horsmanden. The photo "Around the bin" is mum and her sisters. The kids are me and my cousins. The Trotter man is my grandfather and On the vine (bine) is my cousin,sister,nan and aunt.

Terry King

ON THE VINE
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AROUND THE BIN
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Janet Lily Kevin Maureen Sue
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I would like to thank Terry and he's family for the
hopping memories please keep em coming

KEEP EM COMING!

First one Hopping 1922 Nelly my mother-in law (smallest girl) with her family hopping, Second photo Nelly (aged 93) still picking hops this September 2008 at the hop farm

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IF YOU HAVE ANY OLD HOPPING PHOTOSTORIES
YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THIS WEBSITE
PLEASE E-MAIL ME AT PEARLYKINGJIM@YAHOO.CO.UK
CHEERS ME OLD COCK'S OR
 

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Well done Nelly keep it up my Love
 
The two blinding photo's was sent to the website via
James Hatt cheers me old cock!, keep em coming

 
 
 
Can anyone Help
 
hi  jim
we used to go hopping in the 1950s. we was at  chartham kent nr canterbury.finns farm later called deanery farm.trying to find person that went to that farm.in the late 50s deanery farm stopped hand picking.so we went down the road to hulmes farm where we hand picked till middle 70s.some of the folks we new came from east end here are a few names the jollys/cressinghams/mcdonalds./gieeds/my family came from essex the nicholls/abbotts/jenners/button/clarks/cattos/just to name a few.will try to sort some pics out and send them to you.if any person went to any of these farm would like to hear from them many thanks jim
don
 
If you have anything to help Don out you can E-Mail
All The Best Of Cockney Luck

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The photo's below are just some of the snaps i have from the days when we went Hopping down in kent from left to right
No 1 This is me has a young hopper with my my Mum & Dad
Katie & Bob Jukes, it was taken about 50 years ago in the fields
of Reeves farm,Hadlow, Kent
 
No 2 Just an old one i put in for luck
 
No 3 This one was sent in Via the Website
 
No4  My Family in thwe Harrow public house in Hadlow
My old Man Bob- Uncle Charlie-Ernie Francis-Uncle Jim Beale
 
No5  A few of the family members outside the huts
 
No6  Me and my Mate outside the Cookhouse

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The Jukes Family just after the war
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Katie Jukes with my sisiters and cousins

Every September when the hops were ready to be picked, farmers would write to workers (usually women and children who didn’t have permanent jobs) in Kent, London, Sussex and East Anglia. They were invited to come down to Kent, stay in huts on the farm and work in the hop gardens for 6 weeks. For many Victorian Londoners, living in a dirty, polluted city, this was seen as a holiday in the country. The same families would come 'hopping down in Kent' year after year

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Pickers' huts were usually made out of tin. They were often arranged in a block so pickers could share washing and cooking facilities and a communal toilet. Cooking often took place in the communal "cooking hut"

Most pickers brought belongings with them to make their huts feel like home. Some even covered them in wallpaper. 'Fagot' beds were made up using sticks and whole families shared one room for their 6-week stay. If tin huts weren't available pickers were sometimes accommodated in old animal sheds or tents.

Some of the pickers did not need to stay in huts – they were travelling Gypsies who came to the farm with their own caravans and trailers.

During the 19th century many of the pickers lived in army surplus tents, huts were built when health and hygiene benefits were recognised

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This letter was E-MAILED to me from Ken finch with he's memory of Hopping

HI Jimmy
Sadly all our photos have been lost as my mum used to lend them to the manning’s as they didn’t have a camera and they were never returned. Our family came from Vauxhall, I clearly remember the day reevesy came and told every one that there would be no more hopping he did it from the inside of a van I think he thought he would get nobbled if he did it face to face. I seem to remember a really tall man who always wore a black hat and was referred to as the Duke there were to young girls in the family and they used to keep a goat we had a lot of pleasure when our relatives used to come down in getting our cousins to stroke the goat knowing full well the thing would eat anything that came near it in particular your shirt and trousers.
I remember the Harrow well as I seemed to have spent a large part of my childhood in the kids room which was good as it had an old piano in it, until one day my dad George Finch and my uncle Bob manning after listening to the governor of the pub moaning about the kids banging on the piano said for to pins he would throw the thing, dad said he would give him 10 bob for it and slammed a note on the counter I think the governor thought he was joking and picked up the cash dad did no more and backed the van up to the pub and him and uncle bob loaded it on the van and from then on we had a piano in the cook house so when my uncle Pete came down with his jazz band the old piano played by Charlotte manning rang out across the farm.
I don’t know if you remember the time when word went round the farm that Harry reeves was doing a hut search my dad thought it was to do with all the scrumping that was going on and he had us all throwing dozens of crates of apples and pairs in to the ditch behind the huts only to find out that some sod had pinched his chicken. I don’t know about you but I have great difficulty in getting my kids to believe that the whole family spent weeks in a tin hut in a field with no power/gas or water and no bleeding bog! I took them to the museum of Kent life where they have picker huts even after seeing them they were doubtful and then when I told them my dad used to wall paper corrugated tin walls they say now we no your mad cause it cant be done, oh to be so young a.
I have dozens of story like yourself let me know if you need a few for the site.

Kind regards to you and your family

Regards

Ken Finch

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:lol: Hi Jim

If you manage to get any photos that would be great I was talking to me old ma about this yesterday and she reminded me of the one and only time old reevesy came round and issued the family with a bit of a warning, it was one weekend when me uncle Pete was down with his band and all the adults had gone down the harrow, us kids were left in the charge of Cyril more commonly known as who done it, as he had a habit of letting one rip every 5 minutes and where ever he went you would here the cry COR WHO DONE THAT, any way Cyril decides that the adults will need a good fire going for when they get back as it was getting a bit cold so with about half a dozen kids in toe we trot of to the wood at the back of the water pump, at this stage Cyril who was never the sharpest knife in the draw decides to cut down a small tree and forces every one to help drag it back to the cook house where he proceeds to shuv it up the chimney and places about a dozen bundles of faggots around the base. Eventfully at some signal that only Cyril can hear he puts a match to the lot and up it goes, by the time the rest of the adults get back from the pub know one can get with in 20 feet of the bloody cook house due to the heat and the metal is glowing bright red, so there we all are loads of angry adults all moaning over whose idea had it been to leave who done it in charge (he wasn’t even aloud to have half a bin in case he lost it) and all the kids thinking this is the best fire they ever seen and Harry reeves having a go at me dad cause flames and sparks are flying out the top of the chimney and he’s panicking cause he thinks his fields are going to catch fire, need less to say who done it got a right earful and it fell to me to extract the family revenge I don’t know if you remember the old water pump at the end of the field but behind this was a small section of wood land and it was there that I told who done it about the white lady who if not paid would haunt the offender to his grave the only way to avoid this was to place a penny on the stump of the white tree and if the cash was gone the next day you was safe, this had to be repeated every time you went to the water pump, me and my pals always had a good supply of black jacks and spangles thanks to who done it’s kind donations.

Look forward to hearing from you
Regards  Ken Finch
 
Me and Ken had a few chats Via E-mail
and he's Family knew mine small world, here are a few of our comments
 
WHOTCH YA KEN
this is from me to Ken
your mum was right. my old man was a pole puller,

bleeding small world thanks to the internet

dad passed away 1976 and mum1998

not many old hoppers left know its a shame another part of our English culture gone out of the window

im just waiting for new password setting to be sent by post for my website and i will post your stories.

the Harrow gone all posh now . posh grub and fancy beer, i bet the people who use it now would love to go back in time to hear the banter- the fights-dancings-and those snotty nosed little cockney kids running about. do you remeber the cadbury chocolate mini bars in the fag shaped box they sold in the Harrow

along with the dog bickies hard a s nails but tasted a little bit better with some R.Whitesdown you throat

ken i glad you reminded me of the white lady its made my day.

i went down to hadlow a couple of weeks ago and asked a few locals about reeves farm

but know one knew what i was talking about, he told me to go to the local church they might be able to help,but i run out of time, but on my next visit i will pop in just to see i anyone knows about hopping
 

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 This was sent via the EastLondon Forum form Bazza
Hi Jim, this photo is about 1930 plus or minus a few years, my Mother used to go to Kent every year with her sisters, and used to say it was the best years of her life as a youngster.
Iv'e lost St George in the Union Jack
it's my flag to and i want it back!

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This memory was sent in by Lori via the S.E.1 forum, 11.09.2008

If you would like to add photo’s or a story from your Hopping experience

I would gladly put it on this page

HOP PICKING
I don't know how long the tradition had gone on but certain families packed up their chattels each year and went to Kent to pick hops. Hops were used in brewing ale and grew on supported vines and these families arrived for several weeks to strip them. My fathers family had been going since the year dot and my Dad had loved the Kent countryside and the chance to earn some pocket money as a youngster. The families that went were mainly from central London and picked hops on their particular farm. They met up with people they had known since childhood and the atmosphere was friendly. Down hopping they lived in rows of little wooden huts without any amenities, getting their water from a communal tap, cooking over an open fire for which wood had to be collected and using a little smelly wooden lavatories which were placed some way from the huts. The lavatory was just a hole dug into the ground with a little raised bench to sit on to do your business. There were no beds unless you bought them from home on the back of a lorry. The huts were provided with clean hay and most people just fashioned this into beds and covered them with bedding. If they wanted a table or a couple of chairs they had to bring them with them as well as any cooking utensils. It was the only way that poor Londoners would get a chance of a change of scene and at the same time earn a few shillings to pay for food while they did.
My mother thought the whole business was diabolical. Dads whole family migrated there as was the custom, the very elderly and the tiny infants included, she compromised by letting us have the occasional day visit or on one or two occasions taking lodgings in a cheap pub or boarding house in the area for an overnight stay Some relatives stayed the whole six weeks, other relatives for a week or two, but they all went hopping. To be fair, it wouldn't be everyones cup of tea and Mum was always very particular about standards of cleanliness and hated insects. She appreciated that the hop picking area was very beautiful but was a reluctant visitor at the best of times.
Naturally, to me, it was a complete paradise. As a child I couldn't imagine anything nicer than sleeping on sweet smelling hay with my family all around me and waking to the sound of sky larks in a bright blue sky. I loved the smell of wood smoke, everything tasted better cooked in Nan's big pot over the fire. The ham, cheese, chops and bacon from the village shop was unlike the tired produce we had at home. The bread was up to our baker's standard and the butter, eggs and milk were fresh from the farm which made it all the more delightful. Whenever we visited it seemed always to be fair weather, hot sunny days and mild evening with good light and everything green and sweet. There were horses in the undulating fields and recent traces of sheep on the extensive meadow where the huts were located. The farm was some way off and there was a reasonable walk to the tiny village and the all important little pub called the Gudgeon. One of the most wonderful things about hopping was that the many of the paddocks around had large apple trees in them. I could never get enough of hopping apples. They were and still are the most juicy, sweet apples that I ever ate. These wonderful apples never appeared in our shops at home which was always a sadness. Where they went I haven't a clue because the whole area was chock full of this wonderful fruit and they must have been harvested for sale.
I once went with my grandmother and aunts for a mornings picking. We stripped the strange leafy flowers from the vines and put them into a sack suspended from vine poles. Every so often a farm worker would travel down the line of each family group of pickers and empty the sack into large baskets, the contents were calculated by bushels and pecks but I've forgotten which was the larger. A tally was made of each full basket (bushel?) at the end of the day and the head of family was given the wages. It was hot work but everyone was cheerful and working our way through the vines was fun. Sometimes the old granny or elderly aunt would be left to watch the smallest children while slightly older kids had exploring do to. Each day a woman from the family would leave at midday to begin the evening meal and on returning everyone tucked in with a good appetite. After a rest, games were played with adults and children alike before the children’s bedtime. Someone would stay behind to watch the children and keep the fire in while the rest of the family retired to the Gudgeon for a pint. Occasionally, the slightly older childen would go to the pub too. I remember playing shove ha'penny. table skittles and an ancient penny machine on the wall in the bar room. Then we would make our way to our lodgings while the families walked to their huts for a well earned rest.
On one visit wood was needed for the fire, my Uncle Charlie and I volunteered to get it and we clambered over gates and fences to find a really big log for the night fire. We found a beauty but Uncle Charlie doubted that we'd manage it. He had string in his pocket to tie up our bundles to make them easier to carry. He tied this securely to the log instead leaving enough for us both to tie a piece around our waists. We dragged it across a paddock and managed to get it over a gate. We were huffing and puffing but knew we could call for assistance if we could only get it across another large paddock and then down a long bank which led to our meadow. We slogged on avoiding stands of trees and keeping to the low ground when suddenly we heard an almighty huff. We both stopped and looked around. Up under the shade of the trees we saw the most beautiful horse looking down at us. Uncle Charlie said 'Oh Gawd! We've come into the paddock with the stallion!'. I hadn't been scared and asked why it mattered. Uncle Charlie started to explain that stallions can be unpredictable and we had better go as fast as we could to get to the gate. The gate seemed a long way off and Uncle Charlie kept his eye on the stallion all the time. I looked at him too and saw he was pawing the ground and snorting. Uncle Charlie suddenly shouted 'Start running!' I don't know where we got the strength from, it must have been the adrenaline because we went for that gate like a pair of trojans. We could hear the pounding hooves and that was all the encouragement we needed to run the last few yards. We managed to get over the gate with the string so tight around our waists that I thought it might have cut into our bodies. The stallion slid to a halt, snorted again and threw his hind legs up before racing off. We were both too knackered to speak for a few minutes, our breath was making noises I'd never heard before. Uncle Charlie climbed back over the fence and we managed to get the log over the gate so that the terrible pressure was off our middles. We sat down on the grass to recover and thank our lucky stars that we'd made it to the gate in time. Uncle Charlie said that he should never have tied us to the log and we decided we had better not say anything about the matter when we got back to the meadow. By the time we reached it, we were both laughing about our adventure and congratulating ourselves on bringing home such bounty. I didn't tell my parents about it for years.

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